If you don't wanna buy used or can't find a reasonable price for the oc2 the mxr vintage octave nails the sound for sure. We hope the information we provide can help you in deciding which products are the best fit for your needs. I feel that this is the world of electric guitar that started in the 1950s, shortly before I was born. Additionally, we will also be providing our number 1 pick for the best bass octave pedal out there right now! I've learned the real key to the OC-2 sound is EQ. I tried to make an analog octaver and realized the charm of analog sound. This iteration of the Octave Multiplexer has been placed in a smaller diecast enclosure, but stays true to the original circuit seen in the past. JavaScript is disabled. Finishing off our list is the one-and-only Pure Octave brought to you by the guys over at Mooer. The original POG has been incredibly successful over the years, and has been used on many different recordings. No special part is used, but it contains parts (ICs) that are no longer available because it was released in 1982. For those who want to make their own effect pedal from now on, I made a page explaining how to select a tool. I am a self-made nerd. the TC Electronic Sub and Up? This time, I designed the printed circuit board by myself as well as the previous analog delay self-made (DM-3 MOD). You are using an out of date browser. The MXR M288 is a dual-voice octave pedal that offers a variety of options including: true bypass, analog tone, and multiple ways to shape your tone. At the top of our list sits the Boss OC-3 Dual Super Octave Pedal, which Im sure this doesnt come as much of a surprise to any experienced octave users out there. 
I own them and tested them side-by-side, Greatest name for a pedal ever.Sausage Fingers. They are also particularly useful for solos too. Switches the Bass Filter in and out. I put the purchased parts on the PCB. 
This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. There is no doubt in my mind that you will have no problem storing this pedal away, or finding room for it on your pedalboard. Through extensive research and vigorous testing, we provide you with everything you need to know about each of the products we look at. We hope you have found this list informative, and have gained some knowledge into the best octave pedals that are available for your bass guitar right now. In addition, "2SK30A-Y" is used for FET. RANGE: This functions as a RANGE knob when the MODE knob is set to POLY. The OC-3 sounds pretty much the same as the OC-3 to be honest.
Please check the fields highlighted in red. A solid budget alternative to the OC-2, and made in Japan too! DRIVE: This functions as a DRIVE knob when the MODE knob is set to DRIVE. "I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat". Ive had the OC-3, it doesnt sound nearly as good as the OC-2 IMO.
Clockwise is 100% wet. YepThat's probably the deal. Designed a two-layer printed circuit board ordered from "Fusion PCB" As a result, the half-wave rectified tone is inverted every other wave and converted into a signal with twice the wavelength. Is there a smaller alternative to the Boss OC-2? Oops, looks like you forgot something. The unit has 3 controls knobs (Grown, Dry, Girth), and a single toggle-switch (Mid+). This adjusts the amount of distortion in the sound. Adjusts a filter that will shape the tone of the suboctaves higher order harmonics. All processes of PCB design can be done with the freeware "KiCAD". Coming in at second place on our Best Bass Octave Pedal list sits the MXR M288 Bass Octave Deluxe. The other is a ROHM BA634 chip. Apparently, noise jumps from around the CMOS on the board to the pots and jacks inside the enclosure when the board is housed in the enclosure. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hes been playing music since he was young, and has been the main content writer at Tone Start for the past few years. The unit is built to the exact same standards of durability weve seen out of every other Boss pedal.
The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. This is an IC with one circuit of ordinary flip-flops and not generally available. Very Good items may show a few slight marks or scratches but are fully functional and in overall great shape. The principle of the analog octaver is like a Hammond organ that makes a sound by turning a gear (called a tone wheel). I fixed it by cutting the trace on the printed circuit board and reconnecting it. This adjusts the range in which the octave effect is applied. In the first place, if you just want to add the sound one octave lower, I think that the pitch shifter that changes the pitch digitally is more stable. It sounds thicker than the OC-3 (digital version) I've been using. Around the frequency divider circuit that creates the pitch signal. { I would get a different model before I bought the OC3. POLY (Polyphonic): Enables polyphonic input. The Pure Octave gives you a tonne of options to style your tone using the primary MODE knob.
I connect all the lines except GND, and filled all the remaining GND with solid earth. The manufacturing fee is only $ 5, but the shipping fee by DHL is $ 20, so the total is $ 25. Please read the terms of use and disclaimer in the attached "readme.pdf" before using this data. The UP OCTAVE signal is one octave above the original input signal or twice the frequency of the original input signal. Each of these parts has its own volume control, so they can be mixed as desired. This is still cheap enough. Turning the SUB switch on gives the sub-octave a deeper, bassier sound. The volume of the sound two octaves down increases as the knob is turned to the right. Furthermore, Boss have also gone and included their original OC-2 mode found on their previous model, which is a great feature to keep on the OC-3., It should be noted that the OC-3 only produces notes that one or two octaves down from your original sound, and not up. Is the OC3 sub synth sound comparable to the OC2? This means that the pedal will fit much easier onto your pedalboard due to its small diecast housing. I checked the operation and tried playing with a guitar. This is the one that is 1 octave below your original sound. Alex loves to play around with different styles of music and enjoys listening to anything from country to classical. For Sale: Bass Guitar Strings and Accessories, The TB Bazaar: Gear For Sale from our Sponsors, For Sale: Double Bass Amps, Strings & Accessories, Wanted: Bass Guitars, Amps, and Accessories, Wanted: Double Basses, Amps & Accessories.
I housed this ovtaver in a gold-painted enclosure of HAMONND's "1590N1". Adjusts a filter that will shape the tone of the suboctaves fundamental and lower order harmonics. Good Deal List: bearbeams, pena_55, sonidero, greyscales, ChetMagongalo, xchristophex, Monkey Boy, krautrocker, osbornkt. Apparently, the pitch signal (square wave) divided by CMOS was added on the direct sound. I plan on building a Parasitstudios U-235 suboctave this weekend. That's all that I can think of in that style/price bracket. The board design was done using the freeware "KiCAD" for all processes. I call it "Gold Octaver". You may decide to add a shield sheet after checking the noise level with mounting in the enclosure. Why do so few bassists talk about the EHX Octave Multiplexor as that synthy womp sound? With the OC-3 you also have the ability to add distortion to your octave notes using the pedals new drive mode. OC2 if you can find one. In addition, the position of the switch was decided so that the battery space could be taken. No, the OC-3 is not an option. I think the person who first devised this circuit was probably an analog master. I want to say the Akai Unibass does something like that, but I could be making that up. I think DOD made a octave pedal as well. As this knob is rotated clockwise, the volume of the SUB OCTAVE signal will increase. They definitely don't sound the same. The trace design is fairly easy since the two-layer board can draw trace on the front and back. They are both great. The glitches and the tone are a hallmark of the genre (check out John Davis from Nerve, or Janek Gwizdala). The sub-octave can be crafted to sound like a massive dub bass line, or fine-tuned to fatten up your riffs or solos. Controls the volume of the guitars signal. The Octron octave is EQd a little different. I believe they're all gone now unless you find one used. This is clearly different from the digital pitch shifter. Additionally, the pedal allows you to blend in your guitar signal with the utmost of ease. Inside of the beautifully finished gold octaver (battery snap removed). Bass octave pedals are octavers that are able to generate a tone that is one octave below the note you are playing. Thankfully the Micro POG is still able to provide the same flawless tracking and smooth polyphony of its predecessor, which makes it an easy contender for one of the best bass octave pedals out there right now. When I analyzed the operation of the circuit myself, I was impressed by the ingenuity of producing a stable sound one octave lower with only the analog circuit. OC2 is the "classic" sound. However, the octave sound was heard separately from the original string sound, which made me feel uncomfortable. Some people, for that reason, record with the OC2 and tour with the OC3, which is honestly a great compromise as crowds will just be paying attention to the subs you'll be sending ;), Thanks for all your replys :) I'm going with a valeton OC 10, OC2 clone, Press J to jump to the feed. This mode creates a more stable octave sound than available in other modes. The unit does not take batteries and must be powered using the 9.6VDC/200mA AC adapter that is included with the product. Any reason why not to just get the OC-2? When the SUB switch is set to OFF, only the High Filter is active. The OC-2 and OC-3 sound awfully similar, despite the analog/digital difference between them. An octave is a effect pedal that generates a sound one or two octaves lower than the original sound and easily reproduces an octave playing style like Wes Montgomery. Traditional octave pedals are monophonic, which means you can only play one note at a time while using it. The standard Boss layout of the OC-3 gives you access to four different tone knobs, which we have detailed below for you to become familiar with:. DHL delivery took other 5 business days. These are labelled DRY, SUB, and UPPER. The effect was great, and no noise was added even if the board was housed in the enclosure. The knob is 4 o'clock for Direct and 12 o'clock for OCT1 / OCT2. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Tone Start is a website dedicated to providing in-depth reviews on music-related products for musicians all around the world! The board size was decided to be 60mm wide according to the enclosure "HAMMOND 1590N1" width inside. The first is OFF (clean), the middle is the sound that OCT1 is added, and the last is the sound both OCT1 and OCT2 are added. If I were playing an electronic band I would go for the OC2. Since I chose "green" this time, it took 5 business days from ordering to completion of production.
It can be created only with the parts library provided by default. The Sub n Up even has a setting for tracking as crappy as the OC-2 does. (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). This time, I actually made it using the circuit of OC-2. Therefore, it is necessary to replace this flip-flop with another CMOS IC. Aguilar Octamizer? I placed an order with "Fusion PCB" in Shenzhen, China, who produces 10 PCBs for $ 5. Recording environment: Gibson Les Paul (front PU)-> Self-made octaver-> ZOOM G3X (Fender Twin Reverb amp simulator clean)-> UR22mkII-> DAW (Studio One). From my understanding, the OC-3 models the OC-2 but as it's a digital instead of analog pedal like the OC-2, they won't sound exactly the same. The operating principle of the octaver is: First, the high frequency range of the input sound is cut with a low-pass filter to create a square wave with the pitch (frequency) of the original sound. I'd hate to have purchased an OC2 and then have something happened to it, on tour or from wear and tear. Why dont many manufacturers make vertical 4x10s? By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. The effect extends into higher frequencies as the knob is turned to the right; turning the knob to the left limits the effect to lower frequencies. Definitely my favorite pedal! Do you agree with our top pick? Very cool octave down pedal from Japan aping the control set and sound of the now very popular and collectible BOSS OC-2. These pitch signals and the input tones half-wave rectified by the germanium diode are multiplied by the op amp's circuit. Just wondering if theres anything out there that's as good as, or better than, the OC-2. The ZIP file contains the schematic, board design data, and original component data. There are many books on CAD and board design methods, so you can refer to them and make your own. Others are ordinary electronic components. Somebody mentioned EBS, it tracks like a miracle & sounds great on guitar. It may not display this or other websites correctly. "reportSuiteIds": "", Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by drumvsbass, May 3, 2018. Clean sub with fuzz upper would be so sweet. Analog octaver BOSS CE-2 I went for the OC3 because it was cheaper than the OC2 and used it in a band setting for 5 years or so with had no complaints at all. I designed the component placement so that the phone jack and foot switch do not interfere with the PCB. The Boss has a deeper tone and sounds more like a video game and the Octron has more mid range. }, Find a similar product below or contact us for a recommendation of a great alternative, The Beat Goes On | The Enduring Legacy of the LinnDrum, Looping Back Around | A Deep Dive on Line 6's DL4 MkII, FenderChampion 50XL 50W 1x12 Guitar Combo Amp Black, See All BOSS Harmony & Octave Effects Pedals. If you have a relatively close sounding sub octave, the rest can be accomplished with an EQ pedal on the octave sound. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Supporting Members list unlimited gear with no listing fees in the Classifieds, get instant Keyword Alerts, and get Free Shipping at the TalkBass Store. This adjusts the level of the sound two octaves below the original. This is a list page of the effect pedals that I made. The enclosure was processed using a hand drill. KiCad board design data download (ZIP file). Also on the high end side of things there are still some B-Stock Mu-FX Octave Dividers, but they are pretty pricey. Tone Start is a website dedicated to providing in-depth reviews on music-related products for musicians all around the world! They can help add some meat and complexity to your sound by giving it that much needed oomph. The Pog, and the Sub & Up are both digital. The DRY signal is the signal present at the INPUT jack. ), but this color selection seems to affect the delivery date. Copyright 2022 ToneStart All Rights Reserved, The 5 Best Bass Octave Pedals to Buy in 2021, We will be checking out the best and most talked-about bass octave pedals, and give you some insight on what to expect from each of them, ELECTRO HARMONIX MICRO POG POLYPHONIC OCTAVE GENERATOR, 1775 SW Gatlin Blvd Ste 203, Port St. Lucie, FL 34953, Fulltone OCD Obsessive Compulsive Drive Review (2021), The Ultimate JOYO Guitar Pedal Clone List [2022 UPDATED], Worlds first compact pedal with true Polyphonic Octave effects, New Drive mode adds distortion to octave notes for a fatter, more aggressive tone, Includes the original OC-2 mode, capable of producing notes one and two octaves down, Poly Octave effect adjustable to play within a specific note range, Bass input for adapting octave sound to bass guitars, Constant headroom Technology (CHT) for exceptional headroom and tracking, Mid+ switch adds a midrange boost at user selected frequency, Lightweight and durable aluminum housing, Polyphonic super fast tracking: play chords, arpeggios or single notes with no glitches, Adjustable volume for original pitch, one octave up, and one octave down, Dry output jack in addition to the effect output jack, Generates deep, fat bass tones one octave below the notes you play, Two separate smoothing filters enable you to tailor your sub-octave signal to the exact bass sound you desire, Monophonic device that works only on single notes, 9V Battery included (EHX 96DC power supply optional), Precise polyphonic octave effects with no distorted sound (11 different octave modes). Board design requires some experience (I worked for an electronics design company about 25 years ago). Component mounting and soldering Also look at aguilar, mxr, DOD, and tc electronic octavers. battery), and not only works with bass guitar, butelectric guitar too. If you can't get it, "2SK2880" can be used instead. Let us know what you think in the comments below! When I was browsing the internet, there was a person who made OC-2 experimentally. As mentioned previously, bass octave pedals are used to create a sound that is an octave above or below whatever youre playing. The resistors are 1/4W 5% carbon, the capacitors is cheap box type or ceramic type, and the electrolytic capacitors are also the cheapest. Although, this comes at a small cost. For me as a self-made nerd, soldering parts is the most enjoyable task. I was at a loss for a while, but suddenly I noticed that there was no noise when I tried playing guitar with the board upright in the enclosure. Well that wraps up our article on the best bass octave pedals around right now. Eats the OC2 for lunch (imo) and delivers more low end than I know what to do with please discuss. Copyright(c) 2021 Toshi All Rights Reserved, Designed a two-layer printed circuit board ordered from "Fusion PCB", the previous analog delay self-made (DM-3 MOD), I analyzed the operation of the circuit myself. The main parts CD4013 and CD4027 are available everywhere. Regarding the transistor for small signals, "2SC732" was used for the original OC-2, but it was difficult to obtain, so I used the alternative "2N3904". Controls the output volume of the SUB OCTAVE signal. Turning the knob to the right intensifies the distortion. There are a few videos comparing the two. These digital pedals have several advantages, such as being able to track the notes you play more efficiently. This fun work was completed in about two hours. Each of the three control knobs of the Micro POG are detailed below for your convenience: Controls the output volume of the DRY signal. The octave sound comes out as expected, but the direct sound (original sound) has a little jarring noise. This is a wet/dry knob. The OC-2 reproduces 3 separate tones: the original tone, one octave below, and 2 octaves below. I use an oc-2 for faux fuzz bass lines coupled with a Shoe Pixel. The Poly mode attempts to redeem this feature by providing you with a sweet blend of both of the lower octaves to use instead., Like any other Boss product the durability of the OC-3 is nothing to laugh at. Built into the enclosure Earthquaker Bit Commander? I don't use the uncool LED holder. We would like to know your opinion on our best bass octave pedal list! The same phrase will be played three times. Octave pedals are seen quite frequently nowadays, and whats good is that they are constantly being improved on in terms of functionality and design. One is the CD4013, which can be obtained anywhere. As theOC3 is digital it does track better (and on lower notes) but the OC2 has that warmth and unmistakable analog sound which people love. This vid should help inform you of the subtle differences and hear them in context. Turning the BASS FILTER knob counter-clockwise will make the sub-octave sound deeper and bassier.PLEASE NOTE: the BASS FILTER knob is only active when the SUB switch isset to ON. You can see articles on how I made them for each board type (universal board, through hole / surface mount printed board) and enclosure size (normal, mini).
Octave pedals dont instantly give you a great sound, they take some time to configure properly. OCT (-2 Octave Level): This functions as a OCT2 knob when the MODE knob is set to OCT2. You must log in or register to reply here. I cut a thin transparent plastic sheet into the shape of a board, and attached the aluminum foil tape (double-sided conductive) that I used to make the Stratocaster's pickguard shield. Circuits and key components Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. Main components CMOS CD4013, CD4027, rare operational amplifier LM324. The PCB data created using "KiCad (Windows 64-bit) Version: (6.0.4), release build" is provided. Thank you for your support! "siteSection": "", What I felt after making the octaver. It was slightly effective, but it did not change much. The POLY (Polyphonic) function allows the OC-3 to process chords. It looks like that piece of gear is gone. As mentioned previously, the Micro POG is a miniaturised version of the original.
You might not dig those either then. It allows you to produce some really awesome sounds. I'm hoping it will give me the same vibe with slightly better tracking. The OC-3 definitely set the benchmark for other octave pedals when it was first released. Electro-Harmonix makes a second appearance on our list of the best bass octave pedals with their Octave Multiplexer. Also, I tried to add a 330p capacitor to the pitch signal output from CMOS to remove the sharp edge of waveform. Tonestart.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. I find this pedal to be extremely fun to experiment with. Sound sample What nails the OC-2 synth sound without the negatives? In order to suppress the noise, I tried to wire the power supply of the input operational amplifier (TL074) directly to the power supply input and increase the bypass capacitor, but it had no effect. Counter-clockwise is 100% dry. What these octave pedals do exactly is they mix the input signal of your bass with a synthesised signal whose tone is lowered or raised an octave higher than the original. When SUB is set to ON the Bass Filter and its corresponding knob are activated. "pageName": "" Bass octave pedals are extremely useful if youre trying to make your sound bigger. The patented Constant Headroom Technology (CHT) gives you studio-performance headroom. OC3 is cheaper and easier to find. This is a clever circuit that replaces the pitch of the input sound with the sound one octave lower. My first EHX pedal broke within 3 months of buying it new. This pitch waveform is divided into 1/2 and 1/4 using a CMOS flip-flop to create a pitch signal one or two octaves lower. I got the Octabvre from 3Leaf audio which Im pretty sure is an exact replica of the OC2 but with a true bypass circuit and a tone knob that lets you dial in some synth like distortion. Even though I already have an OC-3, I tried to make an analog version. The volume of the UP OCTAVE signal will increase as this knob is rotated clockwise. No clue but I want your OC-2 if you find a replacement! This dark blue stompbox is actually quite light (weighing in at only200g), and features a sturdy solid aluminium enclosure. However, this shield sheet may not be necessary depending on the size of the enclosure and the mounting method of the PCB. The OC-3 weighs in at a mere 440g (incl. The sound created by the Octave Multiplexer has been around since the seventies, and allows you to produce a variety of warm analog tones that are one octave below your input signal. I think it depends on the manufacturing situation of the factory at that time, but the most common color "green" is delivered fastest. Oc2 for sure if youre looking the classic sound, oc3 if you are looking for polyphonic capabilities, the drive function, or the sub out option, but the sound is a little different if youre looking for the classic.
After positioning, the holes were expanded in the order of 1.5mm, 3mm, and 6mm, and then expanded to the hole diameter of each part using a taper reamer. We can tell you now that the pedal feels very sturdy, solid, and is most certainly built-to-last.. Funnily enough, this was the first pedal of its kind to allow this to occur. The layout of the pedal is very simple and sleek. In addition, some of these pedals are also able to produce a tone that is an octave above, or even two octaves below the note you are playing. The small Switchcraft box-type phone jack (# 112BX) can be used. The unit can be powered using just a single 9-volt battery, which can be accessed by removing the bottom plate of the pedal. Up until recently all octave pedals were analog, but due to advancements in technology we now have access to digital ones. TalkBass utilizes technology from Skimlinks that may give us a small affiliate commission on purchases made via links on our site. I tested the OC-2 and Octron side by side. The Mooer Pure Octave is a great purchase for those on a budget, but if you are looking for a bass octave pedal that provides you with more flexibility and options, then I would recommend one of the other pedals mentioned on this list. The Micro POG (Polyphonic Octave Generator) is an ingenious piece of equipment that takes everything you loved about the original POG released in 2005, and places it in a more simplistic and miniaturised form. Mooer, Donner, whomthefuckever, all they cats building in those dollhouse sized enclosures. yeah, mooer makes a pure octave, more options than the OC2 but it's pretty dern good sounding. The schematic of BOSS OC-2 can be found in the service manual for repairs. A shield sheet attached to the back side of the board (insulated with paper tape). Find an article about your favorite effect pedal. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. Depends what youre going for, OC3 will track better probably but OC2 has a fatter analog tone more like a synth. Add some low to mid mids, cut the top end and adjust the low end to suit, and you have an OC-2. The dimensions of the unit come in at 73 (W) x 129 (D) x 59 (H) mm.
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