Took several attempts and lots of patience. Removal of front of car does seem excessive. Seems those two years are different from 13-14. sorry mine is different and not much help. i did find a post that said the crossover pipe has an oring type gasket and sometimes can be tightened to fix leak. The following errors occurred with your submission. and only the OEM pipe is worth a damn. 
Ordered a genuine o-ring which was much more pliable and soft and its been good for months now. off; pretty easy job. I was so disappointed I didn't feel like retyping all that again. 
If you have had to add coolant a few times because of it being out or extremely low then I think that is you problem. Happened on my wife's 2011. slow leak on and on and on. I have received numerous emails and phone calls about my post. Krivasauto and other "Intriguer's" with coolant leaks. Yes, had air bleed issues. I had a slow trickle after replacing one of mine. Hey guys. I posted the original article in hopes of helping someone else. 
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That pictorial is very nice, should be quite helpful to any shadetree attempting this job.
SO, it looks to me that the shop is doing a good job of preventative maintenance -- once the front of the car is in service position, its the only way to get at that stuff. Archive -
Mine needed to be removed at both ends since the pipe continued 3" into intake mani. From what I've read, I suspect my problem is the coolant crossover pipe and am preparing for a big labor bill. Hope this thread isn't too old.
Been there, done that. Fortunately, for now, antifreeze and water are cheap. It said I needed to login even though it said "Welcome slb04786" in the upper right hand corner. Also if they are in there might be worth replacing most of the seals that are not so easy access. The shop stated that there was a very small crack in the plastic coolant pipe that interconnects the cylinder heads at the front of the engine and it needs to be replaced.
If it is, I'll try to find out how they access it and post back. It was my pleasure to interact with you on the phone and share my thoughts on my repair. I have a 2010 2.5 Outback with a leaky coolant crossover pipe..I have searched over this forum, but I cant find removal and installation instructions on the job.. if it is the top one it is intake comes off and that pipe is EGR. Privacy Statement - I remember a post mentioning a company that can rebuild the electronics of this Bosch Module, but if I remember it was a few hundred dollars. SO, it looks to me that the shop is doing a good job of preventative maintenance -- once the front of the car is in service position, its the only way to get at that stuff. YES, have then replace the accessory belt if it has not been done -- the service position is also required for that. Remove the other ends. Terms of Service - And the other reason is I cant find any videos or instructions on 2010-2012. Specially when the bolts break from rust. Advertising - But, the design of the coolant pipe connections could apparently have been better too since they all seem to leak after 8-10 years. Trying to be rational here. Looking at your picture reminded me that you will need to unhook the EGR and the flex pipe below it as well as the heater hose that are on the crossover pipe. I did'nt need to do any denting of the exhaust pipe.
I'm with carbon2 on this. Probably doubles the time. and its expensive. No kid can reach in there. Cookie Policy - Looking at the quote they're proposing to replace three coolant pipes:- the cylinder head pipe, the lower coolant pipe and the oil cooler hose. and its expensive. Try what carbon2 recommends by lifting the coolant tank above the radiator and keep the tank full with the bleeder open on the radiator. Thanks, I think. 3300, thank you for the kind words.
Welcome to the Subaru Outback Owners Forum, we have tons of information about your Subaru Outback, from a Subaru Outback Wiki to customer reviews. these forums are more educational than I realized). Haha. Also, the oil cooler hose does leak. Doing that took me to a blank reply. It did end up being the coolant crossover pipe.
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Anyone have any tips for disassemling and replacing the gaskets on the coolant crossover pipe. Good luck krivasauto-- I learn something every time I log in here. thanks stan for starting this post and for the pointers on the telephone a few days ago!
I did not realize how many people would come to reference it in their own repair. Yes I tried the intake spacers; the engine felt like it got a 2hp gain at all rpms lol, 1 hp of which was probably from all the cleaning, and the other from hot rodding the throttle body. Advertising - The pry bar shortcut worked well after removing throttle body and adapter and left manifold, I removed radiator fans to make that a bit easier, but could probably have done it without that. I see coolant on the ground (centered left-to-right and ~3/4 forward in the engine compartment). Yes, I just removed the 2 bolts on the flange. I changed the original coolant after 8 years and at about 55K. I had spent about an hour explaining what i had done and it was all gone. Archive - i can post pics and guide you if you have 2.5 assuming not too different from 2010. Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1, The following errors occurred with your submission, S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ), Jaguar Forums Feedback & Suggestion Center, Other Jaguar Models / Concepts / Replicas, PRIVATE For Sale / Trade or Buy Classifieds, Forum announcement archives / Forum History, https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xchange-189069/, Water pump+Hoses+Alternator+Rear coolant crossover, Aluminum Crossover Water Pipe Assembly 96jJV-8A504-BD, 2002 XK8 Seeking Instructions for Water Pump and Auxilliary Water Pump Replacement. Privacy Statement - I totally agree that the design could have been thought out a little better. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. What is important is to make sure the surfaces are smooth and clean. Here's the rub, apparently it requires the removal of the front on the car to gain access, so the total bill would be $1,000 to replace a $140 part. very kind of you to take that extra time on the phone and it. My question is: Is this the solution to the persistent problem of flow, no internal heat at idle,overheating at idle, highway speed (55/60mph) it the engine cools and internal heat is great, then at highway speed gets hot again after awhile, and will cool to normal once revved over 2000rpm.
When the is in service position, its easy to do the JOB CORRECTLY and see what else is wrong. Clean gunk off intake valves and replace all of the rest of the plastic pipes in the cooling system (there are many). Contact Us - Still no drips sinse repair. Happened on my wife's 2011. slow leak on and on and on. Here's the rub, apparently it requires the removal of the front on the car to gain access, so the total bill would be $1,000 to replace a $140 part. Maybe theres an aluminum after market for it and a diy. Just wondering, seems like the RM has to come off to clear two bolts. Cookie Policy - Both Intrigues have been sold over a year ago, but this thread in my inbox made me post. a quart over 6 months).
It's nice to see why I couldn't find a flange on that side of the engine. JavaScript is disabled. Contact Us - I ended up doing this job aboy 3-4 weeks ago. GM certainly could have done a better job on designing this one. and only the OEM pipe is worth a damn. They are complex shapes with multiple nozzles, I can't find a metallic replacement, so it will have to be a like for like plastic replacement. R56 Coolant Crossover Pipe - Isnt there a better way, F54 :: Clubman Stock Problems/Issues (2015+), https://www.northamericanmotoring.cohermostat.html. I dont have a good pic of egr pipe, but it is stainless steel, runs almost vertical, and top port to intake is just under TB. Terms of Service - Why didn't MINI just use a hose to connect the thermostat to the water pump? This of course doesn't make using the crow bar trick any easier with this stuff attached. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Make sure the old stuff has been cleaned up and try some lights grease/ silicone spray on the o-ring and a tiny bit on the back side of that waterpump, sounds like its just a little too thick and rolling out. For another thread. After logging in it said my reply coudn't be posted because I had logged in and to click on the back button to go back. I'm also willing to bet that the gasket today is the same as it was 10 years ago and will leak again - I'll let you know in another 10yrs :). 6 hrs of labor to remove right exhaust manifold, egr valve, throttle valve. Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Clubman (R55), Cooper and Cooper S(R56), and Cabrio (R57). Another pair of helping hands while prying is recommended. I'm guessing due to release of pressure/water from these gaskets and the seemingly unique and delicate cooling systems of the 3.5 Intrigue? Thank you to all who have also shared their experiences with this repair. The more I think about this, I might just have it done. I tried to have this fixed last year, but the shop incorrectly diagnosed this as a leak at the thermostat - new tstat didn't fix it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Much longer bolts and I wouldn't have been able to. Removal of the intake manifold and throttle body is pretty much a given. We had some people state issues. This is the pipe that is at the rear of the engine and supplies coolant from one head to aother on the 3.5L engine. $650 isn't terrible if you can afford it. I believe the EBCM may require programming to the vehicle. There very well may have been problems with the gasket supplier, but with this problem being so pervasive to Intrigues, it does not seem that there was an isolated vintage or batch of inferior gaskets. Replacing the water pump and the crossover pipe as I noticed slight moisture around the WP. I couldn't even see if there was a flange down there or not. Also, the oil cooler hose does leak. It also appears to mention that they went after the rear exhaust manifold with a series of extensions, Maybe from the top? I've done it on a a few 2006 and older subaru's and not as fun a job as it sounds. I have changed a coolant pipe without doing service potion - but the super charger was off. The Crossover manifold uses 3 identical gaskets with metal grommets or spacers and it seems to me that the metal spacers prevent the gaskets from sealing completely and a blown seal is inevitable. Contact Us - The service department quoted me $785 for the job, but charged me far less ($585) as the technician was already into the engine for the timing belt replacement. Archive - Just scrape it down till its smooth. I had meant that the design could have been better thought out to allow access to the pipe by flexing, rather than removing, the manifold. Whilst my 2013 3.0T was in the shop have the engine and transmission mounts replaced, I asked them to investigate a small coolant leak (approx. I used a 1/4" flex-extension with 13mm end to get out difficult bolt. It is hard to tell from your close up pics, but egr pipe looks different than mine. I lose about a liter / 600-700 mi. I just had the coolant crossover pipe replaced as part of the 10-year service; it was leaking. Make sure all the bolts are off on the EGR valve near the cooling fan and pulled away, there is a 15mm bolt also holding the EGR tube running parallel with exhaust manifold. for July's Outback of the Month Challenge! And thank you Krivasauto for correcting me. the seal is designed to provide the correct amount of "squeeze" on the gasket's rubber to seal properly. Ya, I'm definately "Shade Tree Mechanic". krivasauto, suburbanstevie, et.al. Audi do like to cram things in. According to the 3.5L 2001 Aurora procedure both the EGR inlet and outlet pipes (Both of the flexible lines that attach to the coolant crossover) have a crush connection on the end that attaches to the Water Crossover. I didn't unplug the wires to Throttle body because some cars require a relearn if disconnected. Took it back off and could clearly see that the o-ring had already started to degrade and harden in less than a week. The shop stated that there was a very small crack in the plastic coolant pipe that interconnects the cylinder heads at the front of the engine and it needs to be replaced. I've got a '99, 3.5L, and about 90K miles. Anyway that's another discussion. My apologies to Stan. Thanks for the advice ('though I had to look up 'panoply'! Only my shop is not as spotless as theirs was. The main crossover coolant pipe is plastic, gets fragile and just leaks.
Some pipes have a visible ridge where it can indent the o-ring and cause weeping especially when hot. a quart over 6 months). I was afraid this would be the answer. The leak will not cause loss of circulation but air in the head or pump would cause it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The car is still nice, but $leak, $wheel bearing, $AC leak - I think it's almost totalled, unless I use sweat equity, but I think I'm going to have to ask for help on this one. Sorry , didn't mean to " step on your toes " ! Could these be backed out and cut off, and the replacements be cut down 1/8" to 1/4" yet still have enough engagement to make a good seal, or is this just making it harder? Manage Preferences - GM certainly could have done a better job on designing this one. Need a little guidance. Inorder to reuse the hoses the procedure recommends not to remove the connections to the water crossover. No way I could have unbolted the manifold on that side. I have found that it is not so much the aftermarket pipe but the aftermarket o-ring that comes on them. when you pulled the old coolant pipe, did all of it come out? Its pretty easy to take it off. Thanks for your detailed response, the thermostat is original, it sounds like I should get that done at the same time. Maybe find an anorexic kid to get the little fingers up there. good idea to clean carbon from intake, TB, egr system and tube, while you are in there. I have changed a coolant pipe without doing service potion - but the super charger was off. There is NO aluminium after market. When removing the Fuel Injector connectors it is not necessary to remove the blue locking clip entirely, instead remove it half-way one click and use small screwdriver to push black tab back then gently remove the connector. The metal grommets on the three gaskets are there to make sure you don't over-tighten the seal. Manage Preferences - i removed the variable runner valves as well just to clean. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. I did take the intake manifold off. Been there, done that. Can you find out the part number? I have determined that it is the o rings on the cross over pipe.. i just had my 2014 2.5 throttle body and intake man. I have 67K on the car ('00). No kid can reach in there. Finally after several times of it back filling and bubbling through the hose at the bottom of resevior bottle and out the over fill tube, the air is out, it seems to come to full pressure and temp like normal but the flow problem seems to be my issue, mainly it seems at the heater core, until it gets a rev of rpms then all returns to normal And you opened the black plastic bleed valve on the top passenger side of the radiator? Keep posting guys! coolant leak in the engine mainfold, help. Unfortunately, the quote is normal and typical. Looking at this repair - my '99 Intrigue leaving puddles on the floor, not sure if it's this or head gasket (how do you tell?). I couldn't even get to the exhaust bolts on the other side of the engine. The following errors occurred with your submission, Discussion forum for the C7 Audi A6 produced from 2011, The New Marketplace (All new FS items go in here), Vehicles For Sale - Archive (NO NEW POSTS HERE), Parts For Sale - Archive (NO NEW POSTS HERE), Want To Buy - Archive (NO NEW POSTS HERE), Send a private message to Worldwidebeagle. Should have used the copy function first I guess. There is NO aluminium after market. Privacy Statement - . I agree, it's a stupid design. I typed up a detailed rply on this site but when I submitted it I guess my login had timed out or something. I still have a soft spot in my heart for the Intrigue! slip the crook end of crowbar underneath exhaust manifold and EGR tube, with some wrangling a spot should be found to pull the manifold out, up and away just enough to slip out the Crossover pipe. Cookie Policy - Terms of Service - Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright 2022, http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9cc30b3127ccef882ac8216f200000040O08IZtXLZszag9, http://aurorah.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=nextgeneration&action=display&thread=17754, http://aurorah.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=nextgeneration&action=display&thread=15205, http://aurorah.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=nextgeneration&thread=5702&page=1, http://99intrigue.shutterfly.com/waterpipe. Was much easier than removing right exhaust manifold. When the is in service position, its easy to do the JOB CORRECTLY and see what else is wrong. Check the parting seam on the pipe too when you take the o-ring off. It's tight but I had just enough movement to get the job done. What is the name of the gaskets that are on the coolant crossover pipe???? Removing those two bolts allowed me to put my pry bar (crow bar) down between the head and the pipe and move it just enough to loosen the other 2 coolant crossover bolts and lift it up and out with the bolts. These cars seem very straight fwd to work on mechanically, but your call. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. sometimes the broken lip of the old pipe stays stuck inside the waterpump housing backside. According to the following links over at the Aurora forum it looks like they removed the throttle body, and heated the bolt on the rear exhaust manifold and disconnected the EGR Inlet from there. I'm taking my 2000 Intrigue in for an external coolant leak that I've had for a while. It definitely isn't for the faint of heart. Whilst my 2013 3.0T was in the shop have the engine and transmission mounts replaced, I asked them to investigate a small coolant leak (approx. Unfortunately, the quote is normal and typical. Nevermind i found out thanks for the tips on how to replace and merry Christmas!!! YES, have then replace the accessory belt if it has not been done -- the service position is also required for that. The main crossover coolant pipe is plastic, gets fragile and just leaks. 2010 Outback premium, 2018 Forester Premium, 2021 Forester Sport. The engine starts easier, runs super smooth, throttle tip in transition is awesome, no flat spots in rev range, runs better than new at 108k miles.
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